Saturday, April 20, 2013

O’Brien: “The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. … The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. … How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?”
Winston: “By making him suffer.”
O”Brien: “Exactly, by making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own. Power is inflicting pain and humiliation. … Do you begin to see the kind of world we are creating? … Always there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. … If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.”
-– From George Orwell’s 1984

Sunday, March 17, 2013

It is the springtime of my loving-
the second season I am to know
You are the sunlight in my growing-
so little warmth I've felt before.
It isn't hard to feel me glowing-
I watched the fire that grew so low.
It is the summer of my smiles-
flee from me Keepers of the Gloom.(GLP)
Speak to me only with your eyes
it is to you I give this tune.
Ain't so hard to recognize-
These things are clear to all from
time to time. Ooooh...
Talk Talk-
I've felt the coldness of my winter
I've never thought it would ever go
I've cursed the gloom that set upon us...
But I know that I love you so
but I know that I love you so.(me)
These are the seasons of emotion
And like the winds they rise and fall
This is the wonder of devotion-
I see the torch we all must hold.
This is the mystery of the quotient-(division)
Upon us all, upon us a little rain must fall.
Just a little rain?
ooooh, yeah yeah yeah!

Led Zeppelin-The Rain Song 



Which really came first--The Process Church or Scientology?
So yes, they are still here, albeit in the guise of a pet sanctuary. I though this was good:

In March 2004, the Rocky Mountain News outed the people running Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kanab, Utah, as The Process in its latest incarnation. The Cone of Silence had been raised, and the Best Friends management felt the need to 'fess up.
A few days later, they added a section to its website, mostly written by Michael Mountain and giving their own version of the past. This is still (as of August 2005) available at [link to]

Reading it, I had a strange sense of deja vu, from around 1969. In that year, the Sunday Times in England picked up the story of how in the late 1940s L. Ron Hubbard, before starting Dianetics and Scientology, had been involved, magically and financially, with the rocket fuel scientist and noted Thelemite, Jack Parsons. The newspaper had learned how, after some ritual workings to create a magical Moonchild, Hubbard took off with Parsons' girlfriend, a boat they'd all invested in, and a bunch of cash. It was classic Fleet Street muckraking at its salacious best.

Scientology's response was a glorious farrago of a letter to the Sunday Times that began: "Hubbard broke up black magic in America..." Ron, it turned out (according to the Church of Scientology, and quoted in Russell Miller's Bare Faced Messiah) had been sent in by the U.S. government to smash up this dangerous ring of occultists with which Parsons was involved. Naturally, he succeeded magnificently. A stolen girlfriend? No, not at all. "Hubbard rescued a girl they were using."

In sum, the facts were all covered off. It was only the truth that was missing in action.

I recall Michael Mountain (Father Aaron as he was in the 1970s) as a charming man who was often irreverent, and fun to be around. The Best Friends account of the early days shows he still has the ability to charm, even if, as with the C of $ story about Hubbard, the truth and the facts have some distance between them.

It might be unfair to critique details almost 40 years after the events happened, but I feel otherwise. When someone publishes 8,000 words of well-spun baloney, a theurgically (and otherwise) skeptical person like myself can't resist teasing it a little.

The primary fiction is that The Process consisted of a bunch of 1960s counter-cultural seekers, consensually choosing a bohemian, back-to-nature lifestyle. No-one who left England for the Bahamas in 1966, then went on to the Yucatan and Xtul was arguing about it, but the cult-like nature of the group is carefully erased in Mountain's description. Does anyone recall the alliterative headlines in the British press about "The Mindbenders of Mayfair"? Only me, it seems. But then, back before I joined, I collected all this coverage religiously.

And while Robert De Grimston is airily dismissed as "the so-called 'Teacher' of The Process, who had written a number of books and was becoming well known in academic and theological circles," his wife Mary-Ann (see Mary-Ann's photo and Moon Unseen, from June 2005) remains "She Who Must Not Be Named". The Goddess of The Process, its core, is unmentioned in its own published history.

And so it goes on. What, us spread Robert's teachings all over Europe and North America? All of us wear the Cross and the Goat of Mendez on our chests or collars? Go out every day and sell those books by the "so-called Teacher"? Musta been some other guys, or some other so-called Teacher.

Even when I was in The Process (1970-72), the legends around Xtul, "The Place of Miracles" were being embroidered. An abandoned salt factory became a Mayan ruin, for example. Away from their civilised backgrounds, but living still in a soup of heightened consciousness, people had let their inner barriers drop and insights, synchronistic happenings and visions came in plenty. The primal presences or psychological realities called the Gods of The Process made themselves felt.

Beyond that blanket statement, or something like it, I doubt anyone today could give a fair account of the weeks and months spent at Xtul. The three ex-members whom I've interviewed all give varying stories.

Mountain's account adds a fresh spin. As the group came to Xtul, he says, they encountered an old man who "just smiled and said, 'Es para vosotros,' ('It is for you.') And he waved good-bye and continued on down the trail."

Neat - except, as anyone who's learned Spanish finds out, "vosotros" as a second-person plural form is today used nowhere in Latin America, only in Spain itself.

Later, the same man appeared, Mountain says, as The Process were all pulling out.

"'You are leaving,' he said. 'But one day there will be another place for you. It is a beach without an ocean. And the sand is all red. And there are animals. Muchos animales.' "For someone who had never seen red rock canyons and the pink sands that go with them, it was a fair enough description of Angel Canyon, the future home, 20 years later, of Best Friends Animal Society."

Not bad. I just can't find anyone who was at Xtul but left the group who remembers a thing about that 'prophecy'. Zip - or rather, nada.

Mountain's aim, it seems, and that of the other members who wrote this story, is to make it plain that everything before caring for animals was just prologue, or a youthful exuberance. There was, he notes, a Christian ministry phase of helping other people, as indeed there was - after a Christ-and-Satan phase of that, plus a neo-Jewish one, neither of which is mentioned. Animal welfare was the direction in which things were guided.

"The animals were beginning to take over! For many of us, they'd always really been our passion. And when a few of us got together one evening at the ranch to talk about what next and where next, we were all feeling that it was time to devote ourselves to that true passion."

I can't say this is wholly false. Brits (the remaining core leadership group is mostly British) are famously dotty about dogs and animals generally, and She Who Must Not Be Named always had strong feelings about cruelty to animals. What decent human doesn't? But to claim animal welfare was the central concern in that first crazy decade spent as The Process? Or for The Foundation during much of the second? Back then, the End of the World and redemption therefrom overrode all other ideological messages, even if anti-vivisection was a cause we intermittently embraced.

As noted elsewhere on this blog, I had a remarkable experience out of it all, though the group's most austerely head-messing phase was over when I joined. I'm not the only ex-member with mixed but still fond memories of the community, the sense of inner calm and purpose, and the humour we brought to it all. It's impossible to tell today from the teachings available on-line, but The Process could be fun, and very funny. You needed to accept the premise of the joke - humanity's utter absurdity - but that done, a lot of things about life came to seem less tragic. Perhaps the absence of such candid detachment about the past is what saddens me here.

Best Friends, clearly, is a well-run operation, however much its location miles from any cities compromises its mission. It's an honest endeavour even if it does support the aging remnant of a failed cult. We all gotta live, and the BF operation pulls its own weight.

The roots of my own main beef date back to a visit four years ago, when I briefly reconnected with some of the people I'd known three decades before. What I found was that it was all just like Mountain's story would later turn out to be. The "P word" was not mentioned at all, and almost nobody would share any personal stories or opinions unless they involved saving or helping animals.

Had anyone learned anything spiritually? Well, everyone was much happier now than before. What did people feel it was all about, that wild Gnosticism, that fervent preaching about an End that never came? Well, it had been a long journey for everyone. What wisdom had they all learned? We need to be less cruel to animals. And so on.

I drove out of that beautiful Utah canyon frustrated at feeling stonewalled, with my conception of shallowness permanently redefined. I've not been back. Other ex-Processeans do visit and maintain friendships, but I couldn't be bothered to go again.

Do they, under their neo-Romulan cloaking device, yet have some kind of wisdom, the way we did, or felt we did, 30 years ago? They won't say in Angel Canyon. All who stayed surrendered their personal histories for a distorted collective one.

From Scientology, The Process borrowed the idea that all life consists of games, played as parts of larger collective games, and all ultimately part of a cosmic Game of the Gods. A personal game might be: I am always ill; or, I will make $15-million in real-estate then find my kids hate me; or I will struggle for human rights. Regardless of the circumstances or activities involved, they're all about gaining knowledge; about experiencing all things that are possible to experience.

In visiting Kanab, after an hour, I could almost say "Yes, I remember you" in exactly the same, affect-less manner everyone I met used. I had three different people apologise to me spontaneously for what had been done to me in the past - all of them in a slightly beaten-dog tone, and using the same sequence of words. I'd gone in high anticipation, and without any grievance or hurt to air, but I came away with one.

It was all supposed to be about accepting our own reality in its fullness, and thus open to God. The modus operandi today has become a sweet, well-intended deception that seems to have lost what spiritual truth or honesty was once present. Best Friends is, as any ex-member can see, not a rejection of the structure of The Process or The Foundation, but a continuation. The sadness I feel is that while the externals have changed, the core game is the same as it ever was: a bunch of people believing they are an Elect of some kind, grouped around an aging avatar, very aware of human motivations yet hopelesly blind about their own. Saving animals is the latest version of this, and a nice one, but at bottom, it's just another game.

The animals, I've heard it said, are a major comfort for the dozen or so remaining Processeans (most people at Kanab were never involved in the original group). Animals' natural dignity and unaffected joy are easily superior to the human animal's meaner nature. For someone who has spent 40 years tied to a cult, that must be reassuring. Personally, I'm grateful, regardless of whatever regrets and disappointments I've accumulated, that I can tell my own story, and don't have to follow a cultic party line nor distort my own memories to comply with one.

I wish the Kanabians were able to do that. Instead, they still feel compelled to diss their former associate, Robert, like Stalinists dumping on Trostky, and to pretend that so many years of their earlier lives were a mere bohemian misadventure. It shows that, rather than seeing and accepting those years clearly, and truly moving on, they are endlessly perpetuating them.

Oh well. The dogs and cats, at least, clearly appreciate it. Give 'em that.

I may be paranoid but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.

I  get a Uneasy feeling about the GLP server timed out deal.
 The server at is taking too long to respond.
i googled the issue and discovered 1 AC who says this:
You will notice the mods are not responding.
They cannot. There must be a legal angle to all of this. It is also not isolated to just GLP.

This is a network ( worldwide) file transfer to goverment agencies. Has been going on for a few days now. It wont be long until things look just fine again, and everyone will forget about what just happenned.

Be aware, you are being profiled and tracked, your information and posts as well as interests in certain subjects is being stored in a file.

Be afraid. This infromation will be used in the next few months and things are going to get VERY ugly.

If you have options to dissappear, you have little time left to make that move.

I have tried to post DIRECTLY into a mods thread to ask about this issue, saw my post appear, only to see it deleted with no answer. So a 'different server' doesn't answer the question either. It's just a courtesy to your subscribers and guests, as well as your reputation, to communicate. Just a little explanation. Nothing lengthy. Would do wonders to calm the storm so to speak.
What is strange to me is how the mods are obviously avoiding the issue and censoring threads.
Keep trying to post and keeps timing out or error page - so the theory that all is well is right out the door.

The connection has timed out
The server at is taking too long to respond.
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
 Okay I have had this problem for a few days. Happens very time I click on a Sandy Hook thread. Hmmm.
Tney are not saying anything until the file transfers are complete. Posters may attempt to erase old post if what is going on is revealed.

Internet freedom is going away, control in transferring. This all went into effect after the internet stopped cold the hype and gun confiscation after Sandy Hook

This is all about getting a profile on you, I doubt the Mods have mcuh say in all this.

Mods NOT responding after 3 days of questions, deleted threads and posts of those seeking answers, should tell you all you need to know.

Things have changed. There is no way to post without your ISP being tracked and your identity recognized.
Everything you post is being filed now under YOUR real name.

Remember, last year or so Youtube, Gmail and other applications merged and basically require your real name to be stored.

This has all happenned pretty fast so I know it is a surprise. Everyone knew it was coming though. Freedom and good things cannot be allowed to propagate uncontrolled.

For your own safety of course.
Dr. Charles Norris says:
 not sure if what exactly it means but...I got a screen shot of this....
 this :
"The long train of rumors about Google’s new social product has finally reached the station: Today, Google officially announced the rollout of +1 (pronounced “plus one”), which basically slaps a “like” button onto the entirety of web search. On its face, it’s pretty simple: Users log into their Google accounts and click the +1 button next to any search result. Like Facebook’s Like button, +1s are shared with a user’s immediate network of contacts within Google, but it’s more far-reaching: Their preference for this content is visible for the whole web to see. “They can appear in Google search results, on ads, and sites across the web. You’ll always be able to see your own +1′s in a new tab on your Google Profile, and if you want, you can share this tab with the world."

Saturday, March 16, 2013

GLP has been messed up now, for quite a while...i googled  GLP server timed out fix and selected only "past week" to view whats been happening. i do recall day number1, where trinity said the server was hacked by named villains and fixed the issue.  From that day on, i have not been able to view much of anything. i may be able to view the GLP headlines,but that's as far as it goes. anything i click on just idles and then .....timed out. 
so, the first interesting thing i found was this from
ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for March 9, 2013
The conspiracy site Godlike Productions (GLP) was unexpectedly down, at a minimum, on February 28, 2013.  TrInItY claims this was a sophisticated DDOS attack, and he already determined who is responsible. Could the Zetas follow up on ZetaTalk for December 8, 2012, which revealed why TrInItY was under siege late last year? <

  Is this another warning to him about allowing ZetaTalk to be dishonestly bashed while denying ZetaTalk supporters the opportunity to post at a site that is allegedly open to all? [and from another]  GLP Has Been Under A Sustained Sophisticated DDOS Attack All Day Long! [and from another]  Sorry guys I was passed out when it happened.  Just got up and tracked this bullshit down. It's been mitigated and the packet captures sent to the FBI. Rory I know it was you.  The other guy was Ivan. Ivan is Rory's drunken Russian side kick. Ivan has been arrested and made 5k bail. Rory is next. [and from another]  I have a lot more than this but I need clearance to post it. I present to you Rory Andrew Godfrey, age 26, from Rowlett Texas. The man responsible for DDOS'ing GLP and other conspiracy sites over the last 24 hours.  Listen to the 26 meg file. In it he admits to doing this shit to extort people for money. Literally. [and from another]  January 19, 2009 Authorities arrested a US man on suspicion of threatening to kill President-elect Barack Obama based on statements he posted on a website about UFOs and aliens. Steven Joseph Christopher, in three postings to  As it turns out the threat is not the only thing this man posted on the web. He calls himself "Stevie the Playboy", "Trinity" and in some cases "god." [and from another] The popular conspiracy site Godlike Productions (GLP) hosted the weekly ZetaTalk Chat for years.  But these days it appears posting almost anything supportive of ZetaTalk or President Obama is cause for immediately being banned. GLP was unexpectedly down [December 8, 20012] for approximately seven hours recently, allegedly due to server issues.  Was this just a coincidence or was GLP deliberately taken down?  Could the Zetas address what is going on with GLP and why? Trinity, the owner, is saying he will likely sell due to a stalker he cannot shake. New owner around the corner.   [and from another]  Who Really Runs "GLP" I have frequented the site and do find it a strange place. Everybody knows about the autoban for using the words "Jason Lucas" "Tavistock" "Lop" etc. Google them if you are unfamiliar. The rumor is that Jason Lucas a spam/mal ware programmer who owned LOP, bought godlikeproductions which is a popular "conspiracy" bulletin board to spy on people. The person known as "^Trinity^" on GLP owns the site but nobody seems to know the man personally but for a few mods. GLP has lots of traffic but from my posting there, it is quite different than other popular sites. Hard to describe but something is not right on GLP and the traffic and posters often seem programmed and not authentic. "Controlling the conversation"? That's the way it feels. Like a big simulation.
so then it goes on to say that glp and zetatalk had a good relationship until trinity came along and bought the site.Zetas were thrown out and anyone posting about certain things connected w/nancy ...were banned.
it explains the connection between trinity and  spyware implanted on visors computer as they hang out at the site. trinity is also connected somehow w/ CIA and the site is a huge social experiment.  
then it goes on to say,,well, copy paste:
But the Obama administration was busy trying to keep the nation from flushing down the toilet after the Bush Wall Street crash and tarp bailout in the fall of 2008. Trinity went back to business as usual, until Obama’s plans to announce the truth about the presence of Planet X, aka Nibiru, in the inner solar system. Intense DDOS attacks that brought GodLikeProduction to its knees were invented as the excuse for why Trinity would have to sell and move on. Someone hated him, or so it seemed, but the attacks were perpetrated by Trinity himself. Obama set out to make the announcement in September, 2012, and the first DDOS attack was in December, 2012. Once again, the apparent success of the cover-up crowd to prevail over Obama allowed Trinity to return to business as usual. 
very interesting


Thursday, February 07, 2013

EVERYTHING ive been screaming  from the year 1999, to present!!
Rick Wiles with Doctor Russel Blaylock discussing chemtrais,MSG, GMO 
food and other health issues. 

Tuesday,February 5, 2013

trunews report ;

we are in hot water now,, its about to start boiling and we are the proverbial " frog in the pot of water"
meanwhile over at natural news , i became obsessed with thi artical. 
 the idea is comprehensible to me  :
There's a lot of buzz in the news about a new scientific study that statistically supports the idea that our known universe is actually a grand computer simulation. This is mainstream science, and the idea isn't a whacky as you might first suppose. I've actually written about this several times in articles about consciousness and the nature of reality. This news, by the way, also supports the idea of a Creator who brought this universe -- and everything in it -- into existence by design."

"One obvious answer is that we built it! Not "we" the humans here on Earth, but rather the "we" which is a highly advanced civilization of seemingly supernatural beings with incomprehensibly powerful technology. We collectively built the simulation, the theory goes, and then agreed to selectively insert our consciousness into the simulation in order to have a "human life experience" on this planet. But that's only one possibility from all this."

Sunday, January 06, 2013

KFOR News Oklahoma Jan 4th:GUTHRIE, Okla. – People living in Guthrie have been reporting a mysterious noise around town.
It was heard twice Wednesday around 7 p.m. and 9 p.m.
“It was very loud, very noticeable, and it shook the house just slightly,” said Swanson.
Police dispatchers say the officer responding to the blast heard it from his patrol car but couldn’t find a source.
“You hear it, and you want to kind of call your friends and family and say, ‘Did you hear that? That was gigantic! What just exploded?’,” said Fortney.
and so it begins.....(again)
Source of loud boom in Red Bank remains a mystery;


2.8 16km NNW of Healdton, Oklahoma

3.78km SSW of Boley, Oklahoma