http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JIPt8sHsv0
NOW this is weird,,,,,, really weird 
 have a look a the sky in this clip. they say it is nibiru showing 
BREAKING NEWS,,, nibiru is getting real close now! PALOTINO,BRAZIL!^

nibiru talk is picking up again.
with JOHN MOORE's blogtalk radio  show was  practically saying YES it is coming very close to earth .
 the last  john moore show was interesting,, listen here.....

BREAKING NEWS.... GET READY NOW... AUG 1st 2012 

IF TRUE..HERE COMES TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!MILITARY PERSONNEL ARE BEING INFORMED AND SUPPOSEDLY ARE BEING MADE TO SIGN NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS....WARN FRIENDS FAMILY ETC...SAVE LIVES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFDM1v5-fV4&feature=player_embedded 

 

The John Moore Show 8/9/2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U29fICbKUQ 

"The Great Summer Arctic Storm of 2012" It is very rare to get an Arctic storm in the summer. This is a cyclone and has been lasting for days. Even the storms in the winter don't last this long. Ice in the Arctic is breaking, melting and disappearing. They call it "Flash Melting." A large patch of sea ice in the East Siberian Sea is almost entirely detached from the main ice pack. 50 mph sustained winds for days now. Ice is blowing all over the place. 

he said Aug 17 

http://www.thelibertyman.com/ 

 

 

*** REAL LAST DAY OF MAYAN CALENDAR IS OCT 28, 2011...RIGHT WHEN COMET ELENIN (NIBIRU) IS RIGHT NEXT TO EARTH...WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!! ****

Comet Elenin will make it's closest approach to earth at the end of Oct 2011. Many Mayan calendar researchers have said the real end of the Mayan calendar is Oct 28, 2011!!! Right when Comet Elenin (aka Nibiru) is closest to Earth!

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1376143/pg1

According to researchers like Ian Xel Lungold and Dr. Carl Johan Callerman, the true Mayan end date is not Dec.21st, 2012, but Oct.28, 2011. That's a difference of 13 months and three weeks earlier than the more modern or commonly accepted date. Why the difference? The researchers claim that he Dreamspell or 13 lunar-month calender upon which Arguelles and others based their calculations does not take into account the quarterly leap day(Feb.29) introduced into the Gregorian calendar by Pope Gregory in 1582, whereas the true Mayan calendar does. This pushes the end date almost 14 months ahead of schedule to Dec.21st, 2012(as calculated from Aug.of 3115 BC).



BUT Elenin is NOT Nibiru!!

see this thread. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I personally believe it is the Blue Kachina that is spoken about in Hopi prophecy.

The Hopi prophecies say that there are "two brothers". Blue Kachina signals the coming of its big brother Red Kachina.

As I read the prophecy it would seem to me that they follow each other in the same path or orbit.

The brothers are supposed to be 7 years apart in sight and occurrence.

We were led to believe the Blue Kachina was Hale Bopp which was seen by millions in 1996. 7 years later was 2003 and I don't remember a "big brother" do you?

I've read that People now say that Oct. 28, 2011 is the real end of the Mayan calendar. This would make sense to me.

Lets be logical and not call the end of the Mayan calender the end of the world!
It just means that after pole shift or reversal the current calender will no longer be accurate, and thus a new one would have to be made.

It also fits the 7 year tribulation spoken of in the Bible and Revelation. The antichrist will pull us from the ashes of the Blue Kachina and there will be 3.5 good years of rebuilding and growth. Followed by 3.5 bad years of him claiming to be God. The final end will be from the Red Kachina.

If you don't know about Hopi prophecy I strongly urge you to look into it. In my research I found that it is believed that the Hopis are the decedents of the Mayans.


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"According to researchers like Ian Xel Lungold and Dr. Carl Johan Callerman, the true Mayan end date is not Dec.21st, 2012, but Oct.28, 2011. That's a difference of 13 months and three weeks earlier than the more modern or commonly accepted date. Why the difference? The researchers claim that he Dreamspell or 13 lunar-month calender upon which Arguelles and others based their calculations does not take into account the quarterly leap day(Feb.29) introduced into the Gregorian calendar by Pope Gregory in 1582, whereas the true Mayan calendar does. This pushes the end date almost 14 months ahead of schedule to Dec.21st, 2012(as calculated from Aug.of 3115 BC)."

**** REAL LAST DAY OF MAYAN CALENDAR IS OCT 28, 2011...RIGHT WHEN COMET ELENIN (NIBIRU) IS RIGHT NEXT TO EARTH...WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!! ****

http://viewzone2.com/browndwarfx.htmlSpanish
Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto
by Gary Vey for viewzone

Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries about the discovery for a few years now, mainly because they feared being associated with these "fringe" theories. But like it or not -- it has happened. Well... according to a team of Spanish artronomers who call themselves the StarViewer Team.

The group made the rounds of all the news web sites in the past two weeks, claiming they discovered something very significant. It's almost twice the size of Jupiter and just beyond our furthest planetoid, Pluto. Although it's not a planet, it appears to have planets or large satellites encircling it. It's what astronomers call a "brown dwarf star" and its official name is "G1.9".

Brown Dwarf Timeline

Feb 11 Nibiru between Jupiter and Mars orbits. 2.66 AU from Earth.

March 4 Nibiru breaks through solar ecliptic plane to enter northern hemisphere. 2.26 AU from Earth.

March 15 Saturn, Nibiru, Earth, Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus are in alignment creating gravity trough
and pole shift event. First Conjunction. 2.09 AU from Earth.

June 30 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 1.77 AU from Earth.

Aug 3 Nibiru crosses Earth orbit and Earth reaches Nibiru perigee position. 1.48 AU from Earth.

Aug 18 Nibiru crosses Venus orbit. 1.24 AU from Earth.

Sept 11 Nibiru reaches perigee position at Mercury orbit. .70 AU from Earth.

Sept 25 Nibiru equidistant from Sun and Earth. Second Conjunction. .40 AU from Earth.

Oct 2 Nibiru at Venus orbit. .316 AU from Earth.

Oct 17 Nibiru at Earth orbit and nearest position. .24 AU from Earth @ 22.3 million miles.

Nov 14 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. .47 AU from Earth.

Nov 22 Nibiru, Earth and Sun alignment for third and final conjunction. .57 AU from Earth.

Nibiru will finally be farther from the Earth than the Sun on March 1, 2012 marking 165 days from Sept. 18, 2011 that Nibiru was nearer our planet than the Sun.


Hopi Blue Star or Blue Kachina Prophecy
http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html

NIBIRU/subaru

User ID: 1212884
oil leaking from the Gulf floor
animals dying without explanation
bee colonies collapsing
magnetosphere collapsing
compasses being off
the North Pole moving towards Russia
Increase in earthquakes, floods, volcanic actiity
Perfectly round "sinkholes"
Sun turning white
Chemtrailing

scientists say It's all perfectly normal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is something to really ponder here....

ive been thinking about NIBIRU realistically,and logically.
No one can prove its out there,,NO ONE,not scientist,not astronomers.
because at this point its a legend, a story from the far past.
it seems easy to just blow this nibiru stuff off,but the more i
look the more i find. i checked both sides, against it and for it...
and what is everyone saying? ... the NON believers says it cannot be true because if it were true,then all of the scientist would say so....huuummm.
i argue that this thing isn't easily seen. its possible that planet X is hiding
or cant be seen because of our position in the galaxy now. heck i do not know.
remember, in the past,these people said the world was flat too,
and everyone was happy with the Status quo.
Nibiru believers say,,google sky and wiki sky have blocked out the place where it should be...WHY? i mean really,why is that?
this fact gives a score to the believers side....
what about the solar system warming up, and displaying activity as if nibiru was influencng all of our system. nasa is good at coverups so we know we cant rely on any truth from them,or any other government entity...sorry ,,they wont expose anything that would cause mayhem,,its just not goonna happen.
so all we have is our own brains and gut feelings to rely on . i say,, be prepared,,but why?
it'll take everything with it,,
i doubt any survivors would make it deep in these tunnels and carved out mountain holes, i think everything will be destroyed,and people under ground will get squished,,like ants.
i think the safe place is space,,the space station and any other facility out there. (just my thoughts)
the dinosaurs were wiped out because they happened to be on earth at the time of the pole shift,planet X fly by, and we, here today,,,are about to witness it again.
amazing times we live in and i can only dream of what tomorrow brings.
i pray for peace and happiness for all.

DRAGON, NIBIRU, LUCIFER, PLANET X, DESTROYER, WORMWOOD, NEMESIS, DEVIL, EL DIABLO, PHAETON, DARK STAR, RAJA Sun,,
"Great Star," Hercolubus,SECOND SUN, RED PLANET,,,
There are a number of planets or moons whose existence is not supported
by scientific evidence, but which are occasionally believed to exist by astrologers, would be scientists, conspiracy theorists, or certain religious groups.

Hercolubus, a planet so called by the sages of antiquity, is approaching our solar system and the cause of great concern for those who know about such cosmic phenomena.
According to some accounts, scientists have even weighed it, and they say it weighs so many tons and has a certain diameter as if it were a child’s toy. But this is not the case. Hercolubus, or Red Planet, is five or six times larger than Jupiter; a huge giant that nothing can stop or divert.

In the Revelation of Christ given to John we find a most intriguing prophecy often used to suggest that some kind of heavenly body will crash into the earth and do great damage. The prophecy describes this as a "great star" named Wormwood.

Rev 8:10-11 "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

New Age author V.M. Rabolu wrote in his controversial book Hercolubus or Red Planet that Barnard's star is actually a planet known to the ancients as Hercolubus, which purportedly came dangerously close to earth in the past, destroying Atlantis. Barnard's star has been directly measured to be 5.98 ± 0.003 light years from Earth (35.15 trillion miles). At that distance, it would need to be travelling at ten thousand miles a second (an appreciable fraction of the speed of light) to reach Earth in less than a century. While it is approaching Earth, Barnard's Star will not make its closest approach to the Sun until around 11,700 AD, when it will approach to within some 3.8 light-years.

The former encounter with Hercolubus put an end to the Atlantean civilization. These facts are duly related through all the “Universal Floods” of different religions and cultures. Throughout all the ages, great sages have thoroughly investigated the return of the “Red Planet” and have alerted us about this cosmic phenomenon.

Hercolubus will not come close enough to physically collide with the Earth, but due to its size it exerts very strong gravitational and electromagnetic forces. These forces will cause great natural catastrophes to occur on the Earth, such as volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tidal waves, hurricanes, etc. In addition, Hercolubus' gravitational fields will cause the Earth's axis of rotation to tilt. Currently it is tilted about 23 degrees from its original position, and as Hercolubus comes closer and closer the tilting will accelerate. This will result in the poles becoming the equator and vice versa. As Hercolubus approaches, these disasters will accelerate exponentially.





She'll be comin' round the mountain when she comes!

She'll be ridin' six white horse when she comes!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She%27ll_Be_Coming_%27Round_the_Mountain .

The Nibiru Effect - Nature Gone Wild!
1) Hole in the Magnetosphere
2) Mysterious Cosmic Rays from Unknown Object close to our Solar System
3) Jupiter loses one of its Belts
4) Norway Spiral
5) Space Spiral
6) Two Suns
7) Two Moons
8) Water to 'Blood'
9) The BackGround Hum
10) Planet X Recorded in the past by various Cultures
11) Earth's Rotation slowing down
12) Increase in Plagues
13) Hurricane on Land
14) Monstrous Solar Flares
15) Severe Weather
16) Dark Object lurking near our Solar System
17) Increase in Comets and Asteroids and Meteors due to said object
18) Erratic behavior of comets indicates said object is near
19) The Ozone Hole
20) Strengthening La Nina
21) Increase in Earthquakes and Volcanos
22) Increase in Mine and Pipeline Explosions
23) Mystery Force baffles NASA affects Space Craft
24) Mysterious Star seen Worldwide
25) Seismic Sand Geyser
26) Sink Holes
27) Earth's Wobble becoming erratic
28) South Pacific Blue Whale Pod off Coast of California
29) Earth's Atmosphere Shrinnking
31) Wildlife Dying off
32) Seasonal Variations
33) Sunspots cease for three years
34) Comet Holmes explodes but not due to our sun
35) Global Warming kicked into High Gear starting 2000
36) Global Dimming occured at same time
37) Norwegians prepare for Global Chaos
38) Nationwide FEMA Detention Camps are real
39) Dutch prepare for Global Chaos
40) Subduction Rate of Earth's Northern Mantle in overdrive due to large mass under earth
41) Pole Shifts in the Past
42) Pluto originally a Moon of Neptune
43) Two Comets' tails torn off
44) Russia preparing people for Nibiru
45) Sedna anomalies imply a past visit of Nibiru
46) Videos clearly shows Nibiru beside Sun and Lens Flare dancing around both proving existence of Planet X
47) NASA admits Interstellar Energy Cloud will create "Global Catastrophe" in 2012 AD
48) Pioneer X being pulled back towards the Sun
49) Lens Flare and Lens Artifacts conclusively ruled out of video
50) Irregular orbit of object only explained as the New Jerusalem - the City of Eden
51) Deepwater proven Smokescreen literally - Nibiru kept out of the News
52) NASA Censoring SOHO Images
53) What NASA calls an Intersteller Space Cloud everyone else just calls Nibiru.
54) Mutations occuring in Nature - increased UV
55) Crescent Moon and Star show Nibiru between Earth and Moon
56) Locust Plague
57) Brown Dwarf proven to exist in Oort Belt probably with satellites
58) Entire Solar System heating up
59) Devil's Lake Runaway
60) Affecting Radar in the Southern Hemisphere

The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.(Rev. 12)

the nibiru conspiracy gets better all the time, personally, i BELIEVE it is coming. i believe they know about it (their up and coming actions will show us the truth...) i love reading all the comments on videos and blogs. i save the good ones,here's a few from today:

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Brown Dwarf Discoveries



Nemesis (Nibiru's Dwarf Star) Update
gantonk
i thought Nibiru was just Stitchins wet dream. Now i'm not so sure. Would love you to be right tho cos lets face it, it's gonna be a hell of alot more interesting than Work, Consume, Die!!!

athenazg
any idea why Soho was down for 14+ hours from 7/25-7/26?

lukealandrummond
@jcattera well i almost got the picture of the object being tagged...but they removed it 5 minutes before i got the images....dam NASA i swear they are tracking my system

alberthkd
yup it's obvious it's nemesis do you see the discharge it does just like our sun?

stevecast65
the only other venus out there is comin' outa NASA's anus.lol

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Possible Brown Dwarf (Planet X?) very close to Orion's Belt


jcattera youtube channel

jcattera
Hello, there seems to be a lot of discussion about this object being Mars.
Just to clarify, I used my 8 Inch LX200-ACF Telescope ($3000 system) on three separate nights in conjunction with my IR camera to locate this object. I also confirmed with four of my astronomy friends. We all know where Mars is located. The coordinates for this object are no where near Mars.

al12121
@jcattera; that is quite bizarre. On Google Sky Mars does indeed appear in those constellations nowhere near Orion but in other programs like Stellarium or Orbiter Spacesim, Mars is shown to be to the upper right of Orion near Gemini.


@al12121 - Thanks for pointing that out. I also checked Heaven's Above and they have Mars to the left of Gemini also. So, this is very bizarre! It's confusing as to which one website to believe.


Rayoflight8
2 days ago
@jcattera a third point. google has only bloocked the visible spectrum. the infrared is still visible. not sure what that means. take a look at another point in the sky and tell us what you see 13h 47m 37 -8h 36m 10. this area is blokced by all three websites..google..wiki and microsoft WWT. watch vidoe by nostarpanel.

Nicoljane
This is why Christ warned us..

CivicMindedCitizen
This can't be Mars, Mars is of a different baring. Go google sky and you will see Mars. But the reading that you gave, 6h42m8.44s, 41 40' 18.94", I tried to see it on google sky, it was blacked out!!! That part of the universe is blacked out???
This is a government cover up!!!

mrcarlroberts2008
When i entered the co-ordinates into google sky there is no star, in fact there aren't any stars in that area, just a black square where the image has been left out or taken away.

Im1ofTh3m
"there will be signs in the heavens"

Edav38
If you notice that small orb on the bottom right of Niburu here, it is too clear to be a shadow, I wonder if it is "Marduk" which the Sumerians said orbits Niburu.

kinkbauble
i tried to look on google sky n that imageblock is missing

ChiTownFilmMaker
Some theorists said that this was about the time it would become visible. The Archons and the elites have known of this star, for it is like the midwife that helps in the birthing of a new age. The megaliths stand as a testament of prior ages. Look at their motto, "Out of chaos, comes order." This is why all institutions are systematically being brought down. We shall see much revolution prior to the stars arrival.
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Nibiru facts and secrets...what is going on in this world?

boobear19962007 says:
February 5, 2010 at 6:49 am
i live on the east coast of Florida and its says that if you stand on the beach when the sun starts to rise you see a star that shouldn’t be there.all I can say is Cover your butt start buy extra non perish foods water and head for the mountains I have a wife and 3 kids there have been many things throughout history stating the world would end on this year or that year.we have become so numb to it that people are ignoring this and its going to be unfortunate for the ones that do.again great vid


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Eris a.k.a. Planet X Is Now Visible 4-4:30am on Eastern Horizon!!!

dragnet53
2 weeks ago Eris or Sedna has to be one of the moons of Nibiru. But sadly ATS classified you as a hoaxer which is not right. Whatever it seems Phage says it happens. then somebody brought that thread back up and Phage finally admits that planet in question wasn't "beatleguiese". I personally don't know what to believe any more. but I do believe Nibiru exists.

TheRemedy2012
FACT} Eris movement discovered Jan 2005 .The South Pole Telescope achieved first light on February 16, 2007, and began science observations in March 2007.The South Pole is the premier observing site in the world for millimeter-wavelength observations.Another advantage of the South Pole site is that the sun sets in mid-March and is followed by six months of total darkness, during which time the atmospheric conditions become extremely stable ,Eris is approaching from the south under us! OHNO! .

stevecast65
It's interresting, but if you use these too words together Eris Dysnomia or in te literal spoken form "dysnomia eris", they actually have another meaning. I've tried to get some minds going here so now I'll just put it out there for you. Eris was a demon, so we say "demonic" and dysnomia means to forget or forgetfullness of names. Used together the words mean litterally "forgetfullness or forgetting names through demonic influence or intervention."

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Bohemian Grove is in full swing now thru end of july

horned owl=god moloch
molech = owl

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gonna re-focus on my favorite conspiracy of all time.
it all starts with this:
The Ancient Sumerians And The Nibiru Connection

VERY interesting connections are being made between the gulf oil leak, and UFOs.
the theory is that the location in the water, the gulf of Mexico is concealing something really big, a UFO, or time portal or something wild like that.
i have a hard time believing this, as the situation out there is dire enuff - no need to add any "far out" embellishments. BUT, i keep thinkin' on this angle and it fits more and more.
rumors on line are that we are being exposed to ETs slowly but surely


Informal UFO Disclosure 2010, Now Happening in leaked UFO Reports via U.S. Capitol Police
suspicious, is the fact that the media and civilian population are forbidden to look upon the sea,film,or photograph anything out there - why the black out- why?
why the effort to keep all eyes away? is there a HUGE UFO under there? naaaaaaaa,
but then again,you never know.
a hyperdimentional reality right THERE, at ground zero.
what i do feel comfortable in knowing, is that the leak is still going. BP says they may ,,just MAY be able to stop the gusher by end of month,we shall see,we shall see.

ANOTHER GOOD possibility is that as NIBIRU gets closer, the earth is reacting. we see this by the steady earthquake activity and wild weather.
i see there is a report about YELLOWSTONE SUPER-VOLCANO MAY BE IN
"EARLY STAGES" OF ERUPTION! google it.

Oil Spill Done to Conceal Buckling Seabed:
Wow . . . this approaching brown dwarf star is plausibly as massive as 10 to 12 Jupiter-masses!
That is as much mass as about 3,200 Earths. This estimation makes sense to me, considering that most sources we have heard from believe that it is a brown dwarf star.
Now, Dr. Robert S. Harrington, formerly the Chief Astronomer of the U.S. Naval Observatory, did say: "it's a nice good planet."
So, it seems that he did not realize then, way back in 1991 while it was way out in deep space, that it is likely a brown dwarf star.

i have been painting - today i should have read my horoscope cuz EVERYthing went wrong. like SDI called and said no forms from me, and that means i gotta re do the whole dang thing.
then the car got a flat tire when backing up to go, i had no idea and couldnt believe it. kelly is getting a ride hom e from T.

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some facts that ive been readnig about

>The sun is more excited now than in the past 1,150 years.


>Solar cycle #24 will be the msot violent ever (peaking in 2012)


>Mercury’s magnetic field is expanding as a result


>Venus is displaying a brightness that’s 2500% greater than normal


>Mars & Earth are showing great global warming (there are no cars on Mars)


>Jupiter’s plasma clouds are 200% brighter


>Saturn’s jet streams are acting uncharacteristically


>Uranus is creating clouds with an ability to not do so!


>Neptune has shown a 40% increase in brightness since 1996.


>Pluto has increased 3.6 degress F even while moving away from the sun.

i dont feel good -kidney issues now-

i dont wanna seem "crazy" or parinoid or conspiracy-ish...BUT im telling ya ... NOW, here and in writting - ive talked about this and talked about this ..-im here to write it here for my own self in my own words about how strange everyting seems to be now-ok, ive been stressed because inside my head and deep in my soul - im worried,something is happening out there ,everywhere...i went thru a "serching for the truth"period and now im with a opinion, after traveling everywhere mentally, that something is happening, something weird and wild. politicaly the world is changing and everyone is changing-i know thats generic and vauge,BUT i dont know how else to explain my fright. i dream and ponder over the possiblities of where we are going and what the agenda is. deep down im very worried and i feel a panic something is comming,something big and unbelievible. something with our sun? i say sun, because it has all of my attention lately. i have photo'd and looked at soo many pictures of sunrise and sunsets LOOKING for plant X in the right hand above the sun- and lower right of the sunset - still cannot see the planet obscured by the sun. seems that everymorning we r getting sprayed- while watching the sun ev erymorning for clear - there has not been a clear sky/clear sunsrise - seems they r buzy spraying chemtrails in the eastern skys to cover-

i need a clear sky at sunrise -to take pictures for study- searched google for "2 suns" and was amazed that im NOT the only one thinking like this. lots of videos out there about 2 suns,nibiru, planet X,the destroyer,out there and i watched EVERYsingle one to look for what i dont even know.

medically this is taking it toll-i have been very sick and the RA is active and stongest in the AM-i am now suffering from a KIDNEY issue i have had on and off for ten days or so-the pain is in the left kidney area- i thougth it was a pulled mussle but decided it is definatly is the kidney -i searched google for kidney pain and symptoms- i match all except fever-blood in urine-yestereday i set an appointment at the doctor for MONDAY to be checked out - i woke up in the midle of the night (3.30am)w/ pain and took 2.TWO darvons to make it past that point. im in pain today but its not as sharp and/or painful as it was. so it flectuates -gets real painful, i sweat, i cant move, pain is real bad, then it eases up after hour or so, and now its muffeled and not as intense. yesterday it was mild too,where by at 5.00 pm i thought,OK,,i must have been over reacting the pain just about dissapered so i was embarressed about how worried i was - to think its a kidney - but i know now, it is a kidney, and ju7st whats going on?i dont know ,but i will find answers on monday.

so tiny-shes two yrs old now

nibiru is coming/ im extremely worried about this/i will be glad when dec 21 -2012 is OVER.

symbolic,i saw a nibiru RIGHT aWAY

(r they giving a signal?)

the L-room,where we hang out now (away from the computers)

this cute little creature

In this 1979 episode of 60 Minutes, Mike Wallace talks to President Ford and others about the Swine Flu vaccine of 1976. Note the admitted lack of safety and informed consent, even as TV ads frightened American citizens into getting a shot. Do you think anything has changed today?

this is why i am scared to take the shot,,i have never taken a flu shot since i had one that made me sick sick sick,,maybe thats how i got RA.? never know,,neverwill know either